im sure there are a gazillion posts and videos about it. You will have to do more research on your end about what john said and see how it fits your system and the uad you want to get. and try to load a new piano sample instrument and you play the piano instrument you will suddenly feel there is latency because the DAW is delaying all the sound of everything but you your playing is realtime so from hitting the keyboard to listening the audio of that sample or the whole session when playing is diferent. its good.īut if you have a big session with a ton of stuff and uad plugins. but my point of view is that when you are mixing with UAD card there are no issues. There used to be a UAD plugin chart with the delay each plugin gave. I think what john is saying about thunderbolt is in page 613 of the uad manual:
#TRACKING WITH UAD PLUGINS MAC#
I have the 1st (or 2nd) Pcie card so i coudnt compare and my mac is older so everyones system will be a bit different.
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I just thought to share a little different perspective. Hopefully the amount of dsp and plugin support lasts you more than my satellite which had like 8 stereo instances of plugins (that I remember). There aren’t that many audio interfaces In the market, and if dsp helps you in any way and the amount of i\o is what you need then go for it. But what I’ve learned is that people buy things for different reasons and most of them emotional reasons. Uad branding is extremely popular so o know I’m in the minority here but I guessed it’s a forum for sharing opinions and since I’ve been dealing w proaudio stuff since 1999 maybe someone will find it useful. Converters and I/o is like other interfaces and I already had protools hd system back in the day and my days wasting money on external dsp are over. On the other hand, the Apollo (or audio interface) that does dsp when recording into it does sound interesting as that opens up a few cool things like tracking electric guitars w no latency and having mic preamps emulation for mics.Īll in all I find it a little pricey to have a dsp audio interface or dsp for plugins. Even though that’s not what the majority of people think. I didn’t find it at all appealing or useful. Since I mix as I go and computers have enough dsp nowadays and other plugin los are as good. I have the satélite pcie card and the latency was just too much to use on a non mix session. I found the uad plugins to be on par with other developers. If I need to add anything acoustic I just record it. If I need to add something (VST-wise) after I started mixing I simply turn off the plugins causing latency and record what I need and then back to mix again. In all, it really depends on your workflow and how you'd like to work. Lower for tracking? Absolutely! Running larger projects? Yes since the UAD DSP offloads the native processor. So, lower latency for VSTs? Nah, that's not entirely true (BUT it also means that you can have a lower latency since the native CPU is not used as much). Just track away with ≈ 2.4 ms delay and you can even send some UAD reverb to the singer (which seems to help any singer I've ever recorded ). Where the Apollo shines is when you have a fairly large arrangement going on and you need some vocals (for example). BUT! When running loads of VSTs that hogs a fair bit of CPU you are helped by the UAD DSP taking care of some processing. Where the UAD-plugins shine is in the mix, sure. I can go down to 128 sometimes (depending on project load).
#TRACKING WITH UAD PLUGINS MANUAL#
For "optimal" usage the manual states that I should have set 512 samples of latency.
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I have an Apollo FW Quad, a FW Quad Satellite and a Quad PCIe card. And then you'd also need to send MIDI out from the DAW to the standalone.
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This statement is somewhat false as it would require you to host your VSTs outside of the DAW and route them via Virtual 1+2 or 3+4 (on a Apollo Silverface like mine) to get into Console. Click to expand.UA Support is great, BUT.